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persephone_kore ([personal profile] persephone_kore) wrote2005-07-01 11:08 am
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Weird random HBP thought (no disturbing crossover pairings this time)


Okay, this is sort of an odd mingling of assorted theories I've seen running around. So a lot of people think Dumbledore will die, and there's this notion of how Harry might travel into death or the afterlife, and there's that interesting idea that the seven tasks in PS somehow correspond to the seven books.

Suppose Harry and Dumbledore go into death together, but Dumbledore has to stay behind? (Remember the one potion to go onward, one to go back.)

...I don't know; it doesn't really seem to feel right.
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[personal profile] chthonya 2005-07-01 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, JKR did say that dead people stay dead.

But as I've said before, these days I never assume I read her statements correctly.

[identity profile] persephone-kore.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Being dead and walking live into the realm of the dead aren't always the same thing, though... (Despite the veil. Heh.)

But like I said, this theory doesn't quite feel right. It's also been pointed out that Harry has in fact 'descended into the Underworld' several times throughout the series, in a figurative sense, and that may just continue.

(When was this interview about not killing Sirius, anyway? I never heard that one when people were speculating on the OotP "big death." D'you know where I could read a transcript?)

[identity profile] connielane.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it was an "urban legend" quote. She supposedly said something like "Do you think I'd take Harry's godfather away from him?", but no one has ever found it. It's probably just a mangling of another quote about something completely different.

[identity profile] sor-bet.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
She probably said that, secretly thinking "hell, yeah, that's *exactly* the kind of thing I'd do". :-)

[identity profile] kazaera.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I heard she said "Do you honestly think I'd take Harry's best friend away from him?" when asked about Ron. It might be that those two mangled.[/rumour mill]

[identity profile] policroma.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
She actually DID say something very similar. The actual quote was "As if I'd kill off Harry's best friend!" This was in response to many accusations that she was planning to kill Ron.

People may have twisted it to be that Sirius was Harry's best friend. I know it sounds silly, but after the Harmonies I'm prepared for anything.

[identity profile] kazaera.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 05:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Or maybe they thought "If she won't kill Harry's best friend she'll CERTAINLY not kill his godfather!" and twisted it that way.

...Harmonies? (I haven't been back in the HP fandom in ages so I've been missing all the crazy talk and rumours. For some reason I'm not very sad about that.)

[identity profile] policroma.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Harmonies = Harry/Hermione shippers

[identity profile] kazaera.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, thanks for the info.

[identity profile] hymnia.livejournal.com 2005-07-02 03:44 am (UTC)(link)
Well, I am one of the people who distinctly remembers reading that quote, and I feel like I heard it from what I thought was a reliable source at the time. But...it wasn't definitive. I mean, it made it sound like she wouldn't kill Sirius, but it was like the quote about seeing Lockhart again--it was legitimately open to an alternative explanation (as opposed to the platonic quote CRAX).

[identity profile] policroma.livejournal.com 2005-07-01 05:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If Harry does anything halfway similar, I don't think it'll be until the last book. I figure Harry might have some sort of near-death experience where he meets his parents or something and has to choose whether to live or die, which would be a *symbolic* death and rebirth, but I don't expect that until the very end.

I don't think Harry will go beyond the veil or anything like that. I think this is mostly a fanon misinterpretation of the "magical world" JKR said Harry would eventually visit. He may go to Jupiter or inside somebody's mind or in one of the various "fairylands" of Irish lore, but as JKR said that dead people stay dead, I can't imagine her breaking the rule.... even for Harry.

I also don't remember a comment about her supposedly not killing Sirius. I'm gonna have to go with the "urban legend" crowd about this one.